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Written by Big Head   
Wednesday, 23 September 2009 11:00

Less than 24hrs after some ladies from the men's basketball team and football teams decided to pull hair and punch with their thumbs, another fight happened about 10a this morning.

Several students on the Kansas University campus said there was another altercation between KU men's basketball and football players Wednesday morning shortly before 10 a.m.

KU Public Safety Officers were dispatched to the area around Budig and Wescoe Hall after a report of about a dozen individuals, all wearing athletic gear, in the midst of a confrontation.

This incident comes fewer than 18 hours after an altercation that sent KU basketball player Tyshawn Taylor to the hospital with a dislocated thumb.

Witnesses said the incident may have been caused after a player was shoved down a set of stairs.

Is Todd Reesing gonna have to choke a bitch?

UPDATE 11:24a- This thing just gets better and better. Here's video of the basketball players walking out of the cop shop after being questioned.

UPDATE 11:28a- The official 2nd fight story (with names) after the jump.

Via Kansan.com.

A group of football and basketball players were seen arguing and shouting racial slurs at each other at about 10 a.m. this morning outside Wescoe.

Among the basketball players seen at Wescoe Underground this morning were the Morris twins, Mario Little, Sherron Collins, Tyshawn Taylor, Brady Morningstar, Travis Releford, Tyrel Reed, Thomas Robinson and Elijah Johnson. One of the Morris twins seen telling the police, "One of them just jumped out and threw his hands on me."

Among them were seen the Morris twins, Mario Little, Sherron Collins, Tyshawn Taylor, Brady Morningstar, Travis Releford, Tyrel Reed, Thomas Robinson, Elijah Johnson and many other players. The only football players identified in the group were Dezmon Briscoe and Chris Harris, who the police were questioning.

One of the Morris twins told the police, "One of them just jumped out and threw his hands on me," referring to the football players who were involved in the fight.

Shannon Jobe, Topeka sophomore, said she heard a football player tell the police one of the basketball players had tried to push a football player down the stairs.

Football and basketball players were seen arguing at Wescoe Underground at about 10 a.m. on Wednesday morning. Brett Ballard, director of basketball operations and former backup point guard for the Jayhawks for two seasons, is seen here in a black KU jacket with basketball players.

Harrison Hems, San Diego senior, saw basketball and football players gathered in groups between Anschutz Library and the lower entrance to the Wescoe Underground. Hems said several basketball players were yelling at the group of football players. Hems said the group of football players continued to grow to 15 or more.

Erryn Kindle, Eudora junior, said basketball players were trying to calm Collins down.

"Mario Little told me football players had beef with Sherron," Kindle said. "He said they were talking trash."

Stephen Adams, Perry junior, witnessed the argument. He said he was walking down the stairs between Wescoe and Budig when he saw a big crowd.

“I saw a huge crowd,” he said. “I come down and can immediately see on each side football players and some basketball players yelling at each other. I couldn’t hear anything because I had my Ipod on. I turned it off to try and hear a little bit but it was already broken up at that point.”

Adams said he thought the fight was just a verbal argument, and that no blows were thrown. He said the fight was broken up soon after it began.

“No blows seem to have been thrown, because you would have heard something from the crowd. Nobody was on the ground and nobody was at each other’s throats, they were just kinda facing off.”

Athletics officials separated the football players and basketball players into separate rooms in the Underground after the fight.

Joe Dooley, assistant coach of the basketball team, arrived while the police officers were questioning the basketball players.

The coaches requested a meeting with the players for an undisclosed reason.

Police officers escorted some of the players inside Wescoe Hall shortly after the incident. The players were seen congregating outside the building near the entrance to The Underground. No police officers or players were available for questioning.



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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Now that's a team right there fellas. Sherron doesn't care if the guys are twice his size, their hard head made Tyshawn break his thumb!
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
@Neon: Would Sherron be more Timmy or Jimmy in the cripple fight?
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
AHAHAHAHAHAHBWAHAHABAWHAHAHA!!!! I'm so happy right now. You can't make this stuff up!
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written by A Fastidious Hat, September 23, 2009
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Sherron's definitely got wheels, so that answer's obvious.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
Could be worse, at least nobody has been shot. Speaking of athletes and guns, where's Kalen Grimes when he's needed? If this shit had happened at a Dairy Queen there'd be no round 2. Kalen would have been swinging shot guns around ensuring that.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
@Triston: Funny thing is, Kalen was done after that. Will Self or Mangino going to do the same thing? Yeah, um, nope.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
You really think they should dismiss people because of a fist fight followed by some yelling matches? Disciplined probably, but let's not get puritanical here. Anderson doesn't do it and Pinkel doesn't do it so let's stop this insane glass houses battle.
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written by mitch cumstein, September 23, 2009
This ain't like it's Briscoe's first rodeo, however. Eventually playing nefarious characters will come back to haunt you.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
@mitch cumstein: That's the same point I was trying to make. At some point it becomes more than boys being boys. One insanely embarrassing altercation is one thing. But another one the following morning? Give me a break, man. I don't know if this is what the NCAA means when it says "lack of institutional control" but that's what it sounds like to me.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
Joc Crawford damn near killed a teammate. No punishment, and he transferred.

Stefhon Hannah got his ass beat in a fight, and he was booted from the team. Kalen Grimes got into a fight and was booted from the team.

Yeah, no precedent there. I'm not saying that fights don't happen at Mizzou (although, it hasn't the past 2-3yrs). I'm saying the Mizzou athletic department actually has disciplined players.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
Dude one of your football players ran over one of his teammates w/ a FUCKING CAR! And now they're fighting w/ the b-ballers! This is insane!

Also, please tell me Brady Morningstar was hurling racial slurs at Reesing. Please let this happen.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
@ Big Head. When the police show up and see Tyshawn slamming the butt of a shotgun into someone's head, then yes, he'll get kicked off. Right now we know of punches and some pushing and shoving. This happens EVERY football game and even practice. Just because it happens to be between 2 sports it's all the sudden blasphemy?
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
I'm hoping Tyrel Reed was dropping n-bombs. The guy with the greatest non-white-yet-he's-white name ever.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
Also, please tell me Brady Morningstar was hurling racial slurs at Reesing. Please let this happen.


This would be awesome!
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
Yeah comparing the shoving that goes on in football practice with the shoving that's gone on here isn't really a comparison that works, dude. Try again.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
No punishment and he transferred? Way to play hard and fast with the facts guys.

Laugh it up because it is pretty funny, but if you actually think MU is "better than that" you're funnier than the situation.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
Just trying to think- have there been any players booted from kU basketball or football over the past few years? You've got Joc Crawford running over people and Aquib Talib getting arrested over and over that come to mind right away. Wasn't Collins in deep shit last year over something?
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
He had no luck on the field @ kU, and was a JUCO transfer anyway. Yeah, he transferred for PT. Mangino never booted him from the team, right?
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Crawford was booted. Giddens was booted. Both for things that 5 of your guys basically did at Athena.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
You got a link on Joc Crawford being booted?
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
Whoa whoa whoa. One guy, Hannah, got his jaw broke at Athena and Jason Horton also got involved in the fight. The other three broke it up and broke curfew. Talk about distorting the facts.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
So you're telling me Crawford was given the option to return? He was told to transfer, or else. Same with Giddens and Giles in regards to basketball.

@The True Son. Why doesn't it work? Because it's a member of a different sport? That's really the only true difference. Media types jump all over this because it happened in public. A punch and a push, big deal.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Forced to transfer just like Giddens. It's the classy way to boot people.

@TrueSon: Spin it however you want, all 5 were involved in a fight.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
It's the classy way to boot people.


Also known as the way to show your program has no discipline. Hell, even Nebraska booted Castille. Had to give BoBo props for that.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
@Neon: Except only 2 were involved in a fight. If breaking up a fight is the same as throwing punches then yeah, all 5 were involved. Except that's not at all what happened.

@Triston: Do I really need to explain the difference here? Seriously? Pretty sure if you throw a punch on a football field you're not gonna be questioned by police. There's one difference off the top of my head.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
How is it more disciplined to "boot" someone than tell them to transfer? Seriously, this is a pretty funny situation without exaggerating it into asinine claims of superiority based on the actions of 20-year olds (especially when it's a clearly unfounded sense of superiority)
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
@True: Yep, same thing as far as this conversation is concerned (even if one was to believe your self-serving version of the facts).

Again, I could care less about Athena (and could care less at the time besides thinking it was funny). College kids get in fights over stupid sh*t.

Blaming Mangino for not kicking someone off the team (or Anderson for not kicking Grimes out the 10 times prior to his Placido incident) is assuming facts obviously not in evidence.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
I don't fully expect that the entire basketball team kicked the shit out of a couple of football players. I imagine there were a few people trying to break it up. I just hope it was a scrub and everyone else gets in deep shit.

Briscoe, the Morris twins, and Collins are already on thin ice. These four will probably get the brunt of the punishment.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Collins? Where on earth are you getting your "facts"?
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
How is it more disciplined to "boot" someone than tell them to transfer?


It actually shows people outside of the player and coach involved that the program is under control and the coach/athletic department won't get shit on by a kid that thinks they can do whatever they want.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Seems pretty insecure that you place your reputation over the good of the kid... I don't doubt that's the way Pinkel would roll though.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
The punishment will/should not be severe. This wasn't a melee involving hundreds of punches being thrown causing an escalating riot. It was Taylor failing to land a solid punch and then some pushing. Sure, it gets blown out of proportion but there was really no harm, other than a thumb. A bunch of yelling and shit talking.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
Collins? Where on earth are you getting your "facts"?


Scroll up to the story where it mentions everyone was finger pointing Collins being involved.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
The biggest crime here is stupidity for fighting over some chick in the first place. There are thousand of girls on the KU campus and many of them are just as freaky as the next.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Exactly. It's funny because it was basketball vs. football, but to escalate this to Athena status is simply a fabrication.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
@Tristan: And it makes the athletic department look like a total joke. This isn't an isolated incident. There have reportedly been other issues between the football and basketball teams in the past. Read: NOT an isolated incident. Sounds like a problem that could have and should have been taken care of before anything escalated. But wasn't.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
Athena involved 2 guys in a fight and three that were breaking curfew. That's really worse than a dozen athletes from two different teams coming to blows. As far as we know there was only one or two punches thrown in the Athena situation as well. How's that worse than what happened here?
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Shockingly, a Missouri shill thinks Kansas's athletic program is a 'total joke'. Rinse and repeat. Weak sauce.

Athena was a far bigger deal than everything I've heard involving Burgegate. Ask your big brother to tell you the story, it was pretty funny.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
Seems pretty insecure that you place your reputation over the good of the kid


So you'd rather get steamrolled by a kid than actually punish him? Is this the Tom Osborne theory of "He needs football in his life"? Well, I guess kU does have the history of putting up with shit. Aqib Talib anyone?

http://www.kansan.com/news/200...b_lost_it/

Three positive marijuana tests at Kansas. Rolling with a former teammate who runs over a man allegedly pointing a gun at you two at a Lawrence club. Fighting a former Tampa teammate at the NFL’s rookie symposium. Busting open another Tampa teammate after a helmet you threw at another teammate struck him.


Of course, some of this happened in Tampa as well, but you get the point.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
So now we're kicking a kid off the team that smokes pot? Coming from the school that produced Kalen Grimes, Rickey Clemons, Tony Temple, etc. Can this get any better?
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
When two different athletic teams from the same university are repeatedly involved in altercations, yeah it makes you look like a joke. Pretty sure fans from Baylor, ISU, Colorado, Texas, OU etc. would agree.

And you keep saying Athena was worse but give really vague reasons for why you think that. Weird.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
Neon you just named two athletes that were kicked off their respective teams. And Tony Temple was a class act by his senior year. Your arguments are absurd.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
I assumed a guy that wrote on a Missouri blog would remember Athena. Apparently I'm mistaken. Do you remember Rickey Clemons?

And as for "fans from Baylor, ISU, etc" thinking our athletic program is "a joke", that's just silly. Maybe their fans that are like you think that, but their reasonable fans understand college athletics.

Nothing I've heard so far remotely approaches Athena, Clemonsgate, or the Tony Temple trilogy.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
How are Rickey Clemmons and Athena even remotely related? I've never witnessed a fan meltdown like this one. And I remember Athena perfectly. I'm not sure what you think went on there but you continue to refuse to elaborate.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Remind me why Ricky Clemons and Kalen Grimes were kicked off the team and what they each did before they was kicked off the team.

I can't imagine a Missouri fan, of all people, believe this is actually a problem of athletic department/coaching control...

Again, laugh it up because it is boneheaded and stupid, but spare the false superiority.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
@Neon: Funny you mention two guys that were booted from Mizzou, when we are talking about kids not booted from kU.

I don't remember TT failing drug tests, but I do remember a fight. Guess what? HE WAS SUSPENDED FOR IT.

http://sooners.wordpress.com/category/tony-temple/
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
TT never failed a drug test? C'mon BH, you're better than this.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
You can bring up Grimes and Clemmons all you want but the fact is they were both Snyder's players. Grimes didn't last long once MA took over.

And the person that TT was by the time he left MU tells me GP made the right calls with disciplining him.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
@Neon: I'm just saying I don't remember it. TT may like the cheeba, I have no clue. It's not up on Google. I know what is though...

http://tinyurl.com/mftrt5
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Exactly BH. Using something that leaked from the NFL as some sort of 'evidence' that your guys aren't smokin' the reef is pretty True Son-ish. And claiming any college athlete would be booted for it is downright Tigerboard-esque.

As college athletic departments go, Missouri has had a decent few years, but claiming it's anything other than luck is foolish.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
And the person that TT was by the time he left MU tells me GP made the right calls with disciplining him.


Big Head would have kicked him off the team.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
If you don't kick a guy off for beating up a girl, I don't think you can claim another team should kick off a player for smoking pot. Maybe it's just me.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
I don't remember TT failing drug tests, but I do remember a fight. Guess what? HE WAS SUSPENDED FOR IT.


Yes, suspended... for summer workouts, in which he was injured during anyway wasn't he? He didn't miss any games. If Temple wasn't suspended any games for jumping a Bennigans cook then why should any of these players?
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
BTW, I think there will be suspensions, and I think there should be. But kicking someone off might be going a bit far.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
I'd jump a Bennigans cook if they jacked my meal up too.

TT was hurt forever during his Tiger career anyway.
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written by davemacd, September 23, 2009
Hey, remember that time 4-star Mizzou freshman and backup QB Blaine Dalton got caught with some questionable drugs and beer in his car? Pinkel gave him a second chance. Then, remember that other time when the same QB was pulled over for a DUI and was INSTANTLY BOOTED FROM THE TEAM? Even though it meant that if something goes wrong with sophomore and first-time starter Blaine Gabbert, he has to play a walk-on.

I'm all for giving kids second chances, but some of these kids, and Briscoe in particular, are WAY past their second chances. Some of these players deserve to get the boot or SIGNIFICANT suspensions. Being 20 years old is NOT an excuse for acting like an idiot.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
So you're saying Pinkel just told his lineman to let the first team defense use him as a tackling dummy as punishment for him using a co-ed as his personal punching bag? I guess that's the definition of justice, just seems a little far-fetched
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
I'm saying TT was injured at least a handful of times. I can't remember if he was healthy or not while on suspension.

But you're saying something similar to Briscoe being suspended and injured in the spring, eh? Just like it was this spring.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
I think our point is these things happen everywhere and claiming your program doesn't have problems is asinine.

Your lucky side is the one that is trying to claim that a kid caught for smoking pot and not being kicked to the curb is evidence that his coach is morally inferior to your coach, who didn't kick a guy that beat up a girl (amongst other things).
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
Briscoe in particular, are WAY past their second chances.


What makes him WAY past his chance? Are you equating Dalton's drug and multiple alcohol violations with Briscoe's misdemeanor theft and academic issues? And before you bring up this fight, all that is still unconfirmed is that Briscoe was there, not that he started throwing blows. Also, Briscoe was suspended from the team for workouts AND a game for the grades.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
The problem is Lew, Mangino, and Self don't boot kids off teams, even after fighting, failed drug tests, insubordination, or running over a kid with a car. You say it was a 'forced transfer', which is bullshit. The inmates are running the prison there.

Alden, Pinkel, and Anderson have booted several kids- a leading scorer, a 4* recruit, a kid that shot a gun in the air (Booker) and had a chance to start at LB that year, plus others. Hell, Leo Lyons was suspended for parking tickets. He was irresponsible and was suspended...he didn't run a kid over with his car!

kU is turning into Nebraska of the early 90s without the wins. Seriously, how many chances has Dez Briscoe had?
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
Dalton's drug charges were dropped, yet Pinkel booted him off the squad after the next alcohol related problem.
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written by davemacd, September 23, 2009
Big Head just said what I would have said in response.

And, I would add that YES, I am stating that Dalton's drinking issues are analogous to Briscoe's theft and fighting issues. Academic issues are different.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
So you believe Crawford, Giddens and Giles (all three better players than anyone Pinkel or Anderson have disciplined) chose to transfer instead of playing for KU? If so I can't help you any more. Take a step back, laugh it up, and realize your perspective is compromised.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
What about beating up a girl? Is that less terrible than smoking pot or getting in a fight with a football player?

Seriously guys, you have no moral high ground and you're the only ones that don't know it.
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written by davemacd, September 23, 2009
I think the only one claiming moral high ground in this argument is you. I'm not saying that Missouri kids haven't screwed up and been under-punished for it, but it's clear to anyone (and for the record, I live in Michigan and I'm the only Missouri fan I know up here) that this incident warrants some serious punishment, including some possible dismissals.
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
@Neon: Are you talking about Temple, who was suspended?

Joc Crawford appears to have left on his own according to this story: http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2...ball-team/

Following the Jayhawks’ spring game in April, KU football coach Mark Mangino first indicated there was a chance that Crawford, a senior-to-be, would not be wearing a Kansas uniform this fall. Citing what he called multiple violations of team rules in a short period of time, Mangino told reporters Crawford had been suspended indefinitely, with the possibility of a permanent dismissal from the program.

“I just don’t know his status,” the coach said at the time. “I’ll be honest with you: I don’t know ... whether he’ll be back or not.”

Crawford’s suspension came shortly after an incident in which KU offensive lineman Ben Lueken was either struck by or fell from the hood of a vehicle in the parking lot of the Jayhawker Towers. Crawford was questioned by police regarding the incident.

“Jocques was looking for an opportunity to get more playing time,” the coach said. “We support his decision and wish him well.”


Oh, and of course, Joc pleaded guilty to a lesser charge than felony aggravated rape, which he was arrested and initially charged with in HS, which didn't stop Mangino from going after him.

http://www.kansan.com/news/200..._crawford/

So when you bring in a guy already arrested for felony aggravated rape, I guess you can't expect to publicly boot him off the team. Hell, he's probably already hit his low point in life, right?
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written by Big Head, September 23, 2009
I think the common ground we will all agree on is nothing is going to come from this fight.

The kU athletic department has shown no balls to actually issue out punishment in the past, so why would they now?
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
There will be suspensions but not dismissals. There isn't a need to dismiss someone over an argument. And believe it or not, I don't think there's a need to dismiss someone for beating someone up over burning their Bennigans Tavern Melt.
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written by Husker_Engineer, September 23, 2009
Two things:

1. Awesome meltdown KU fans.....almost Husker-esque

2. Big Head. Keep Tom out of this....the man is a saint.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
So we should dismiss a guy for this but Pinkel doesn't dismiss a guy for repeatedly missing practice and beating a girl up? Maybe in Missouri beating up women isn't seen as quite as bad as getting in a fight with a man or smoking marijuana. Those offenses should get a guy kicked off the team.

And again, if you think Crawford, Giddens and Giles weren't told to leave you have an interesting reality.
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written by davemacd, September 23, 2009
Neon: Pinkel gave the guy a second chance, and he did the right thing.

Some of the guys involved in the fighting incidents are already on their second (or later) chances. I'm not saying anybody should be dismissed, but it should at least be considered. Besides, the next four weeks of Kansas football are Southern Mississipi, bye week, Iowa State, and Colorado. You could put the chess team on the field and win those games. Nothing of any consequence will come of this, and that's unfortunate.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
Some of the guys involved in the fighting incidents are already on their second (or later) chances.


Like who? I just read the police report and no names were mentioned. All anyone has to go by are rumors. All we know is that Tyshawn dislocated his thumb throwing a punch. Maybe he was beating up a cook. Would that be better? We could suspend him 3-4 weeks, depending on the severity of his injury, and call it good.

Let's wait until everything gets straightened out before we start nixing people.
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
Oh I agree that something should happen (though don't overlook Southern Miss but that's another story). Remind me of what games Temple was suspended for after beating up a woman?
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written by davemacd, September 23, 2009
For the last damn time, this is not about Tony Temple. As for the police reports, these players know better than to give each other up in police interviews. There were enough eye-witnesses to ID many individual players as several local news outlets have reported.
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written by Triston27, September 23, 2009
For the last damn time, Briscoe wasn't even involved. And police spoke with eye witnesess, not just players. Also, because a player was near a fight, we should indict them?
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written by Neon Boudreaux, September 23, 2009
I agree with you davemac and I agree it's embarrassing as hell for KU. My only point was that claiming nothing like this happens at Missouri is laughable as it wasn't but a few years ago that it seemed to happen monthly in Columbia. Trying to give a history lesson for the Missouri fan(s?) that didn't realize their house was glass as well.

Again, I'm not trying to defend the action or stop you from laughing, just took exception to the "Pinkel never would have let this happen" He allowed worse just a year ago with absolutely no legitimate ramifications...
KU is lucky
written by SoCal Rick, September 23, 2009
I'm amazed that this hasn't been more of a national story.

If Thursday turns out to be a slow sports day I expect this story to start getting some national attention on ESPN, etc.
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written by The True Son, September 23, 2009
What did Pinkel let go unpunished a year ago?
Holy hell you guys have taken this thing a wee bit too far...
written by hiphopopotamus, September 23, 2009
Without going through many of the 80 comments, I want to hit a couple points.

1. Jocques Crawford didn't run over Ben Leuken. Leuken was drunk, hopped on the hood of his car and when Jocques hit the brakes, Leuken fell off. Despite this, Crawford was shown the door for being around trouble too many times, despite never truly committing a crime.

2. Dezmon Briscoe is absolutely not involved in this situation. He was named as at the scene, because he's one of about 5 football players that anyone not at my level of obsession actually recognizes. And if the scene is Wescoe, I can't think of a time I was on campus in the middle of the day when half of both teams weren't in the area.

3. And most importantly, this is not a big deal. It certainly gives credence to the point that most of these guys don't think their way through most situations logically, but breaking news this is not. I don't expect anything to come of this whatsoever.

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